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Charles Pegge

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Re: Using OxygenBasic with Unicode
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2018, 09:31:47 AM »
Oops!, sorry I clipped your message, John. Yes, I tend to agree,  UTF8 is going to remain the industry standard, until Unicode virtual keyboards become the norm. It may happen!

The ideal unicode symbol for a do loop would be a bicycle :)
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John

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Re: Using OxygenBasic with Unicode
« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2018, 11:43:37 AM »
It would be fun to create a UTF8 symbol gcc preprossor like C BASIC as a C front end language.

Curious. How does upper/lower case functions work outside the ANSI / ASCII range?
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Re: Using OxygenBasic with Unicode
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2018, 06:05:16 PM »
For those scripts which have upper/lower case..

Greek/Coptic uses a +32 displacement, like Ascii:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_and_Coptic

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Re: Using OxygenBasic with Unicode
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2018, 06:22:59 PM »
"I don't object to foreigners speaking a foreign language. I just wish they'd all speak the same foreign language." - From Billy Wilder's movie "Avanti".

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Re: Using OxygenBasic with Unicode
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2018, 06:45:30 PM »
The computer revolution helped English be an international language.

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« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2018, 06:51:53 PM »
Indeed. The manuals were so badly translated that it was impossible to understand them, so it was necessary to learn English to read the originals.

But these pesky foreigners still insist in speaking and writing in their foreign languages. That's why unicode is needed.

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Re: Using OxygenBasic with Unicode
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2018, 06:58:31 PM »
My crystal ball says English will become the earth's native language and all others will be secondary languages kept alive by tradition.

China is going to be the hardest nut to crack.

Cost alone will be the driving factor.
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Re: Using OxygenBasic with Unicode
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2018, 07:27:02 PM »
Your crystal ball is broken. English is the most used secondary language, but there are more native speakers in Chinese and Spanish that in English. The US has now 41 million native Spanish speakers plus a further 11.6 million who are bilingual. More than in Spain!


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Re: Using OxygenBasic with Unicode
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2018, 07:31:10 PM »
I wonder how much traffic non-English sites get compared to English speaking sites.

Real money is done In English.

@Josť - when did you learn English?
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The number of non-English pages is rapidly expanding. The use of English online increased by around 281 percent from 2001 to 2011, a lower rate of growth than that of Spanish (743 percent), Chinese (1,277 percent), Russian (1,826 percent) or Arabic (2,501 percent) over the same period.
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Re: Using OxygenBasic with Unicode
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2018, 10:33:39 PM »
Real money is done In English.

No John.

The total of Asian and European billionaires is roughly twice bigger than North America's total.

So, real money is made primarily in Chinese, Arab, Russian, and Old World tongues, i.e. comes from the territories where the English language is not spoken or even understood. There are indeed very few Frenchmen or Germans or Russians, to say nothing of Chenese, who you can communicate in English with.

Note that most of the North American money also comes from overseas.

North America is a great place to live in and a good market to sell on but it offers only a limited list of goods, commodities and services that the world is eager to buy from. ;)
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Re: Using OxygenBasic with Unicode
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2018, 07:27:12 AM »
I have learned English mainly reading the press and Microsoft documentation. Therefore, my grammar is deficient and my pronunciation awful. When I was a student, they teached French instead of English in the schools of my country. I can read in seven languages, but to speak them well you need to practice it very much. I only speak well my mother language (Valencian) and Spanish.


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Re: Using OxygenBasic with Unicode
« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2018, 09:13:59 AM »
You're more amazing than I have given you credit for to date.